Tianna Roser, Nicole Parish & Lizzie Martinez
Telepathy may sound like a sci-fi, futuristic concept to some. What if telepathy is simply one of our soul gifts that we’ve forgotten? Over the past few months, we've been following a thread - one that started with The Telepathy Tapes and unfolded into unexpected connections, channelings and shared transmissions. This final episode of season 9 brings us full circle.
In this conversation, Nicole Parish once again channels Winifred, a light being connected to “the Hill” who supports autistic non-speakers. Lizzie Martinez joins us as a friend & fellow practitioner, offering her grounded reflections on what’s coming through.
There’s a sense that we’re co-creating with a team of non-physical beings as well as each other to facilitate this awakening into our gifts. And that feels like the perfect way to close out this season.
HIGHLIGHTS:
🌬️ What role do nonspeaking autistics play in helping humanity shift into higher frequencies?
🌀 How did Winifred come into this support role on “The Hill”?
👁️ How is telepathy already active in our lives, even if we haven’t fully recognized it?
🌿 What are some ways that caregivers or practitioners can help nonspeaking autistics?
🔮 Can anyone contact and communicate with Winifred?
🕊️ What kind of healing becomes possible when we stop trying to fix and simply witness?
💫 Why is embodiment such a key part of this spiritual transition?
🧭 How can we support these children as guides without projecting onto them?
🌟 What invitation is Winifred offering us as we move towards activating our higher knowing and being?
TIANNA ROSER is an Usui Reiki Master Teacher, Soul Plan Practitioner & Certified Clinical Hypnotist specializing in Past Life Regression, Life Between Lives Regression & QHHT. https://www.awakeningtransformation.com. 💖 Her book “Awakening Transformation: A Beginner’s Guide to Becoming Your Higher Self” is filled with practices to lighten your spiritual journey & accelerate growth: https://www.amazon.com/Awakening-Transformation-Beginners-Becoming-Higher/dp/1737705303
NICOLE PARISH is a a gifted International Psychic and Medium. She offers both in-person & zoom readings, connecting clients with their spirit guides, helpers, and departed loved ones, as well as entity & attachment releasing and home clearings. Check out her Intuitive Development, group readings & other events. https://www.nicoleparish.com/
LIZZIE MARTINEZ is a Board Certified & classically trained Homeopath who provides Functional and Integrative Medicine for Adults, teens and children. She’s also a visionary, author & teacher leading a new era in medicine. LizzieMartinez.com
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TRANSCRIPT
Winifred episode BTI Nicole Lizzie
Lizzie: [00:00:00] Yeah. When I went to bed last night, I asked Winifred, I said,
we're going to be talking to you tomorrow. So guide me to inquire for the
highest good, that I am led to, ask and receive what's going to be for the highest
good of myself and my clients, many of whom are nons speakers.
Tianna: Aw, beautiful. That's funny because also, as I laid down to go to sleep,
I was like, okay, we're going to talk to you tomorrow. Winifred , tell Nicole
whatever you want, the greater public to know whatever can be of service. I
hope you will, share that through Nicole. Yeah. So what did you dream?
Lizzie: Well, , I just had little fragments and one little fragment was about, me
helping others. And getting frustrated that . What I really needed was to help
myself. So I woke up going, okay, clearly, I need to take some time for self
care. So that felt really strong.
And then, I saw, what I call the garuda, which is , the eagle or the bird holding
the snake in its mouth.
Tianna: Hmm.
Lizzie: I saw that as a flash right before I woke up. And I do have that as a
[00:01:00] sculpture in my house. And then just now driving here, I saw it on
somebody's license plate. And so I was like, okay, what is the significance of
that today?
That image of the bird with the snake.
Nicole: So when you said the bird with a snake, I instantly saw a goddess like
woman with a snake in her mouth. And then I went, what's that? And I kept
seeing it and then I went, oh, it's Lizzie with the snake.
So it's your empowered self with the snake. So then when I say that, what would
that mean to you?
Lizzie: , Well when I got into the car, I looked up garuda and it means unity and
strength. It's the God of unity and strength in Hinduism, the garuda. Ah. And
then it's on the Mexican flag. Mm-hmm. And even holding a snake in its mouth.
So yeah, unity and strength. So it's interesting that it's, world, invocation day.Yeah. So seeing that felt like, yeah. The, unity and strength. Beautiful. Stronger
together.
Nicole: And then two more things I hear when we think of unity, we think of a
group of people being unified, whether it [00:02:00] be everyone through the
globe or all the way down to a family.
But then the other thing is unity with yourself. So if you're half full, I dunno if
this is proper wording, but full unity of yourself. All of your gates are open, all
of your, parts of yourself you have access to in the appropriate amount, in the
appropriate time, right? So you don't blow yourself out, but unity or fullness of
yourself.
Tianna: It's interesting too, 'cause I didn't make this connection about my own
dream. I had actually forgotten that I had said that, to Winifred last night until
you mentioned it, Lizzie. And then I had a bunch of stuff in my dream that I
didn't remember once I got up.
But one little bit was , there was this woman, this like wise witchy woman that
felt like she was mentoring me. And I can't remember what I was trying to do,
but she told me, just float up. And then I was like, oh, wow, it is easier just to
float up.
It was slow though. So part of me wanted to do whatever I was doing [00:03:00]
before, which was faster, but this whole thing about floating up was just like, do
it with ease and with spirit . I feel like maybe that was Winifred. I didn't make
that connection until you said that, but I was like, oh, there's something where
this woman was,, mentoring me or guiding me.
Lizzie: Wow.
Nicole: , And what I was just thinking about is the different rates we can quote,
float up, whatever. Let's just say float up is opening up, going through some
kind of ascension process, having downloads and activations, whatever it might
be. And I remember , you talking about the dark night of the soul and the
Kundalini, \
activation and all the different things. And some is like, this is too freaking fast,
or oh my gosh, this is painfully slow. And so the key that I was hearing you say
is with ease, whatever process we're in, whatever cycle we happen to be in.
'cause we go in all the cycles. It's like the flour bean, the seed being planted,then germinating, then the flour growing with the stem, and then the bud and all
the way through the different cycles of full bloom and then death.
We all go [00:04:00] through the different cycles, but to have as much ease as
possible.
Tianna: Yeah. And it goes back to that time when you had brought through
Winifred for our group before, where she was talking about that. Like we all
need to decide how much we want to open and what's comfortable for us, and
we get to set that, but we want to be clear about that we're all going through this
DNA activation ascension process, but we can choose how little or how much
we are open to at any point.
And there's no judgment or shame how we choose that.
Nicole: Absolutely.
Tianna: So Nicole, you had said that you would be okay connecting with
Winifred. Yeah, yeah. Okay, thank you.
Oh, also, because, . That other time when you spoke through about the celestite,
I have my celestite egg that I, decided to put right here with me to help us to
utilize that energy.
Nicole: Excellent. Great. So Winifred iss already here, even though I'm going to
officially call her in.
Hmm. Calling on Winifred to be able [00:05:00] to connect with her, be able to
ask her questions, receive her guidance, knowledge and wisdom in whatever
way is for our highest and best. Her highest and best, and whoever might be
listening to her words. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, great. So Winifred is
showing me this is interesting.
Yeah. So we have two arms. Winifred is showing me like one of her arms is in
our group and one of our arms is on the hill, and then she herself is somewhere
else. So she's connected to us, the hill and then , what she says is her foundation,
not stone, but wherever, her foundation, wherever she's from, and she wants us
to know that.
When we are doing work, whether Lizzie, you're connecting with your group in
Bali or Tianna, you're connecting with your generational work, whatever it
might be, or another lifetime that you can intend that your feet or [00:06:00]your energetic feet are on your personal foundation., So you may want to take a
moment and go, what is my personal foundation?
Is it a specific place on earth? Is it a specific place in my body? Is it , a specific
time period in my life? Where do I feel solid connected with myself? Connected
with all that is connected with God, the universe, whatever it might be., So that's
just, something that she's offering because people who want to go to the hill or
do other work, and she said the more important thing is to do whatever.
Well, I said work. She wants me to change that word. When you are expanding
your awareness in whatever you're doing, whether it be work, experimentation,
adventuring out, please remember to stay connected to your foundation and to
think beforehand, what is my foundation?
Lizzie: Okay.
Nicole: All right, great, even before I called her, I kept hearing that I'm
supposed to ask Lizzie something, but I don't actually have the question.
It's like, Lizzie, what's on your mind? What's coming up for you? No pressure,
Lizzie. But I heard that [00:07:00] even before she officially came in. So I'm
curious if you have a question, thought anything that's coming up?
Lizzie: Yeah, thanks. , I felt her, I feel her when you connect with her. . She's
so, it brings emotions to me right , when I can feel her.
I'm always looking for how I can be of. Highest service to my clients. Those
who I work with in the non-speaker population and their families, their parents,
, their family systems. Just working with some clients this week and I have
kiddos that I see as a homeopath all over the planet.
, One of the things, that I thought, and then a parent confirmed it yesterday
while we were talking, we're curious as to how we can help these kiddos, young
people. They're so sensitive, right? We know how exquisitely sensitive they are,
and they're particularly , sensitive to frequencies.
And so the frequencies of cell phones and wifi and things like that , we are
trying to understand how we can best [00:08:00] help them. Is it protection? Is it
integration? How do we protect them because we don't know when and how
much they're being affected by it. And a lot of these kids live in apartments in
big cities.Their parents can't go to the, they're not likely to be going to the country or
moving. So I'm very curious about that. Yes.
Nicole: That is a fantastic and very large topic. She has lots of things to say
about it. And first and foremost, whenever you're going into working with these
families, please remember to ask yourself, what do I need?
What do I need? Because what do you personally need? You may have a lot of
intense stuff happening in your life or not. You may need some extra care for
grounding yourself, taking care of your, , she's saying electrical environment
before you go into their environment. She says, this is really important actually,
and she's talking to me as well, which I've never thought about this.
So if you are energetically connecting with them, even though like as a psychic
people who know that I am reading their system, [00:09:00] I'm obviously
connecting energetically with them. But we all, if everyone connects with
someone else, it's on an energetic level. So out of kindness to the clients that
you work with, this is obviously not going to happen, but make sure you don't
have 25 laptops in the room. So even if they're in Chile or in London, make sure
your electrical environment is low key. , That's the official terminology she just
said low key. Okay. And then when you're working with them, everyone is
different.
So when you have someone in an apartment complex in the city, they may need,
I don't know what they're called, but she's saying like there's something you put
on the back of cell phones that make sure the cell phones either don't give off.
This is potentially not the correct term, give off as much radiation or
electromagnetic waves, or don't receive as much.
I'm concerned that I'm butchering that, but the concept is true. Like,
encouraging them that on the back of [00:10:00] all their cell phones or , she's
actually saying it's different for laptops. That they could use something in the
home to help put energetic boundaries.
And there's all this stuff online. She's like, just look it up online. So those kind
of things are going to be really helpful for the families and also for some of the
children. The water is really important what kind of water they're drinking. And
also the reality is that if a parent's coming to you, Lizzie, they're open to new
ideas, potentially, well, it may not be new to them, but for many parents, it's
new to them.They're not going to the traditional doctors. So they'll be open to some of these
things. But also there's some things they're not going to be open to. And this is
parent. Led, but ultimately Winifred said this is child led, the parents are doing
things because the child has led them there, which is really exciting.
I think one of, you know what she's talking about with stopping the waves or
protecting from certain, can you say it out loud so people who listen will know
what Winifred [00:11:00] is talking about?
Lizzie: I mean, I think that things that cover wifi, routers, , shungite and stones
that kind of ground and keep frequencies off of people.
Maybe having children wear shungite., And then , there's ways to block your,
smart meters and things like that. And then I guess ultimately, , if people can get
ethernet or grounding their wifi in their house, so there's not actual wifi, but
that's a little bit more complicated for people.
So yeah, some of those things. You can put boxes over your routers. You can
turn all your routers off at night. I
Tianna: do those things. I turn my routers off at night. My laptop is on , a mat
that mitigates the EMFs. There's clothing too.
I have this thin scarf that you can wear. They have hats and stuff, but I didn't
think they was fashionable. But I like the scarf. And then more expensive
options are even, there's paint. . Like if you're near a cell phone, tower and
things like that, you can paint the walls.
So yeah, there's a lot of different devices and, , things now made for that., I also
have the device where [00:12:00] you can see how much EMF , the reader.
Yeah, the reader Uhhuh.
Nicole: Okay. And then that's very helpful. Thank you. Lizzie, what is Shung?
Will you explain?
Lizzie: Shungite is a type of stone.
Nicole: Okay,
Lizzie: great. Yeah, it's a type of stone.Nicole: And then tianna, you held up something.
Tianna: Yeah. It is a stone. I think this one was s Shanghai, that goes on the
phone.
I have it on exactly for that purpose. It goes on the phone , to block some of the
EMFs. So I was laughing when you're saying, 'cause , oh yeah, I have a bunch
of these things that you're talking about.
Nicole: She's telling me these things. I have zero of them, but I might get them
now. And you two know, and she's like, ask them. They actually know what it
is. So one of the things is TyTianna, when you put out this podcast, it might be
that you put some links to some of these things if you feel like it or people can
look up.
Y'all describe them pretty darn Well. Also, the thing that's on the back of
TiTianna's phone, it's really pretty. It's a black etched stone. And it's the, is it the
tree of life? It's the flower
Tianna: of life. Yeah, the flower of life. They have different, you know, the
different sacred images and stuff.
Nicole: Yeah. So it's really pretty.
So, um, [00:13:00] uh, Lizzie, she's saying that when you work with these
families remember when you and I were pregnant, Lizzie, and I'm guessing you
got the same thing as I did from our midwives or doctors of these are the foods
to avoid. These are the foods to eat. These are all recommendations that you
have a list for families.
Now, you might already have a list like this, but then add the protection from
electromagnetic stuff and you have links to it if you choose to do that. That
could be really helpful. Um, she wants to move on from the electromagnetic
stuff that, um, when you are working with the families, ev again, every family's
different.
Some family may need more support when it comes to food and nutrition,
whether you give them that information or you have several nutritionists that
you recommend, some families need more support on.
This is interesting. I'm not sure how to [00:14:00] say this. I'm going to say
religious support. That, and I don't know if this makes any sense, Lizzie, that ifsomeone's coming from a specific. Religion, let's say Christianity, a specific
space to maybe have some words or concepts that are true to Christianity or true
to Judaism, or true to what, whatever religion it might mean, but that are very,
very supportive, that are very like Winifred, can you help me with the words?
So she's giving me feelings and I'm translating those feelings into words. Can
you help me with the words that are, sometimes people can be in a religion, a
spirituality, a concept, and they can get pulled down into fear and to be able to
say, oh, I see that you're really connected to [00:15:00] Muslim Judaism,
whatever it might be.
And I've also noticed that there's some really supportive. Concepts in there that
help us connect with God or higher power and that there are, okay, this is the
key part, that she's saying that in each religion that, or each vehicle of religion
could bring us to connect with higher beings that are, this is where I want to cry
that are potently beautiful, that are beneficial, that are there to help us.
So she says this is really important because some families what, whatever they
are, someone might have chronic illness. Um, we happen to be, you happen to
be talking about non speakers. Um. Whatever family it is, people can get really
sucked down into the mire or influenced [00:16:00] by negative energies and to
remind their, this is her wording.
And she's saying it actually loudly, even though she's a soft speaker, to remind
their soul that there are beneficial beings out there. And when they said, when
she said being, she actually said, loves, beneficial, loves out there, that can help
you every step of the way. Some people need to consciously ask for them, and
some need to become aware that these loves already are working with them.
Now, I have never heard a spirit refer to beneficial beings such as angels. So I
keep feeling angels by the way. Um, even though it goes beyond angels. But
I've never heard someone refer to angels or beneficial beings as guides and
helpers as loves, but that's how she is [00:17:00] referring to them. Okay, thank
you.
There's one more thing, Lizzie you personally, and she's saying this because this
could be for a lot of people in whatever work that, that each of us are doing.
You personally can know that you already know this. So I don't know why she's
saying this, that you are not alone. You know, there are people around the world
who are doing similar work to you.You already connect with them, ask their advice, ask their suggestions, give
your own advice and wisdom. You are already in a collaboration of people
around the world. I hear about it. You share your stories, and there's something
more about mentorship, that it's really important that where you are in your life.
And she says, this is like so many people could hear this right now that
remember that each person can be mentored and be a mentoree, mentor, mentee
we mentored, and then also mentor someone else. We're all in the, no, not all,
she said not all, [00:18:00] but many of us can do both. And it's really important
because some of us have put ourselves in a situation where we're the ones who
mentor.
Some of us have put ourselves, ourselves okay. Thank you, Winifred. Where
we're the one? Her mentoring. So we're not as much open to learning, and then
some of us have put ourselves in a situation where we're constantly being
mentored and we haven't stepped into our confidence and know that we have a
lot of experience and wisdom.
And she says, please. In general for people to have that balance. And you are
going, Lizzie, you're going to absolutely need this in this continued work of new
people coming on board, new homeopaths and new other people coming on
board who are working with autistic nons speakers or whoever it might be,
people of Down syndrome, people of pans, pandas, whoever it might be.
And that you're going to invite them in and share some of the information. You
know, welcome them in so they don't have to recreate the wheel. And then the
people who've been [00:19:00] in this longer than you, they're going to, you get
to ask, Hey, I need some help here. So one of the things is you're asking
Winifred some questions Great.
Like that. It doesn't have to be physical humans that you're asking, even though
in general your work, you're going to be asking a lot of physical humans. Okay,
did that, how did that.
Lizzie: Collaborative takes a lot of us to do this work. And people get burned
out and so it's good for us to take breaks, let somebody else, make sure we're
taking care of ourselves as well.
Yeah. I do have a question back about the frequency, if I can go back to that
really quickly.
Nicole: Absolutely.Lizzie: My general thinking is that what I, one of the many things that I'm doing
in my practice as a homeopath with the, with these families and with the
individual child, is helping them to be, become more comfortable in their body
so that they can be in their body [00:20:00] comfortably and then not, and then
and then from that place we can start to.
Assist in helping them access their highest level of functionality within the
world. Right. And so I guess I want to hear from her, if she has any wisdom
around, is that, that tends to be my approach. And, and, you know, I tell my
clients that the body is like their vessel and I'm trying to strengthen their vessel
with homeopathy.
And many other kinds of guidance strengthen the vessel so that they're not so
affected by all these things, right? So that they can be in the world in a three
dimensional world, in a safe vehicle or vessel of this body we're given so that
they can feel comfortable there. And then from that place, reach their highest
level of capacity for this lifetime.
And I guess, is that possible? Like, I, I see it in my practice and I, and I want to
know if [00:21:00] she feels like. That's, if there's anything else to help us make
this body of theirs safer, more comfortable to be in.
Nicole: Yes. And so first of all, your approach is so beautiful and holistic in that
there are some people who see a human and see the whole human, see the
already as healthy as possible human, and then can also simultaneously see that
this person's in chronic pain, so then they can help them along that path to
whatever their highest version of themselves are.
So that is beautiful. Work that you're doing. And it's also very specific mindset,
skillset, awareness kind of thing. A a lot of people don't work that way. They
work a different way. Like when I'm seeing someone and I'm in my Nicole self
and I'm not doing psychic reading, I see how the person is right now.
Yet when I go into [00:22:00] psychic stuff, I'm like, oh my gosh, I see you as
this Right. Being who's doing X, y, and Z work. But then when I go into my
Nicole stuff, I'm like, wow, would I really see that yet a year down the road?
Then they're doing X, y, and Z work. And so you can see someone and see the
wholeness of themselves.
And remember when originally she said to us, find our own foundation,
whatever that foundation is, you are working with people's. Their, with their
physical selves, but also their higher selves. And so it might be that before you,the night before you work with someone or while you're in session, I don't know
how it would be for you actually.
You do a lot of dream work, so it might be the night before asking their higher
selves. Will you show me what your foundation is? Will you show me what that
is? Because it might be their foundation. Okay. Winifred is giving a, this very
simple example. It [00:23:00] might be a stuffed animal that they, now,
technically this wouldn't be an energetic foundation, but if someone holds this
stuff to animal, animal and I can feel a child's body going and just relaxing, and
that stuffed animal represents whatever their energetic foundation is.
And so when you're doing sessions with them, it might be that they hold their
stuff in, or it might be that you remind a parent, oh, can we do, you know, a two
minute guided meditation or a few minute guided meditation where you go back
to the, that vacation that you told me about where you felt centered and calm
and peaceful and safe.
Let's go back there first, and then do the session. Or let's do a guided meditation
because you feel so connected to the earth, or holding a crystal, or, you know,
this is all woo woo stuff, so this isn't going to work for every client, but when
Fred is saying, remind them, even [00:24:00] if it's you saying a prayer or
connecting on a psychic level, or connecting on an intuitive level to someone's
higher self, the parents' higher self, the child's higher self, and go, Hey, I invite
you to feel your own foundation.
Invite you to go to that place within yourself or the earth or wherever it is,
where you feel safe and calm and open to the possibilities of why you're here
and what you're going to do. Now as many times when I'm doing a psychic
greeting, I don't remember the original question, but was it answered?
Yes. Tianna,
Tianna: also, I'm looking at the time and I kind of want to broaden our
conversation more, if that's okay,
, 'Cause this is all really helpful information, but it's only going to apply to a
subset of people. I know there's a lot of other people, because some of my
clients had mentioned to me the telepathy tapes and the impact it had on them,
and.I was wondering, is there a way that non [00:25:00] practitioners can be
supportive of nons speakers? And , can Winifred work with anyone who wants
to support Nons speakers? Maybe in the spiritual realms
Nicole: yes. When you ask the question, I actually hear another question from
Winifred that some people who are really into the telepathy tapes, they'll never
work with Nonpeak, they're not going to work with children.
So Winifred actually requests that the question is different. Is that okay with
you? Yeah,
Tianna: sure. Okay,
Nicole: great. There are many people who will hear this that aren't any kind of
practitioners. They're accountants or they're CEOs of something or whatever it
is, but they feel touched by the telepathy tapes.
So then her question to them is, why are you touched? Where are you touched
by the telepathy tapes? Is it. Oh, I remember when I was young, my best friend
and I communicated without using our verbal words. Oh, I remember that now.
Wow. What was that? Let me think more about that. How did that happen?
Why did we stop [00:26:00] and, or, oh, I feel so connected because my nephew
is non-speaking autistic. So is there another way that I could connect with him
or tell his parents about the telepathy tapes? Is there something there, or is it,
wow. So there is something bigger than this 3D world. Wow. So there's more
than just our physical body that people can talk telepathically or can have
awareness beyond physically hearing, physically seeing, well, what can I do
with that?
So for some people listening to telepathy tapes, they're blown wide open. I still
don't particularly believe it but it's really, really interesting. Or I totally believe
it, but I don't know what to do with it. And every person's going to be different,
but there's going to be generalizations.
And for people who are listening to your podcast, Tianna, a lot of people
already like, yes, I believe in telepathy and I've maybe had an experience or two
with it. I'm not going to work with children or non-autistic [00:27:00] speakers,
but in my life, this is a generalization. I intend to be more open to things such as
telepathy, or I intend to evolve or activate some part of my body to be more,
have more awareness or to, , feel more connected with all that is or.My higher self or God. I mean there are a lot of different intentions or different
paths someone can take with the telepathy tapes and with the telepathy tapes.
Winifred says a lot of people, this is a seed planted, they're not going to do
anything right now. And then one year from now, two years from now, they pop
open and they can have some moments of telepathy with the loved ones in their
life, their children, their partners, their best friend, whoever it might be.
Do you have more questions about that?
Tianna: So all of us wanting to develop our telepathic abilities, is that
supportive to the nons speakers just in general because we're now able to
[00:28:00] communicate in their language? Or is it just supportive to the planet
and to our evolution?
Nicole: So she says three things on that one thing.
It's not supportive specifically to nons speakers, but it's supportive , to us as
humans in expanding our way of communicating. So imagine we humans could
speak, but we can't physically see, and then all of a sudden we can physically
see. So we have another way of communication. 'cause being able to see is
assisting us in communicating.
So we're at the place where we can talk and many of us can talk and physically
see. And so then you add telepathy, it adds an additional way to communicate.
Will that specifically help nons speakers if you're not working with them or
don't know them? No, it won't specifically help them, but in two other ways.
One, is it shifting the, oh, what's the word I'm going to say the energy of the
earth, but she did not say energy shifting the. Paradigm of the earth. It's
[00:29:00] still not the word she's using, but the mass consciousness and mass
awareness of the earth. Again, that's not exactly what she's saying, but hopefully
y'all can get it.
So it's shifting what is happening on the earth, which absolutely helps non
speakers. And then the other thing where it does help is when more people can
do it and or are aware of it and accepting of telepathy, it supports nons speakers
around the world because
people are like, oh yeah, they have the possibility of being telepathic. And so
then our wording changes around nons speakers versus we might have a non-
speaker human next to us and go, well, they don't understand or they don'tunderstand my words. These are the words coming out of my mouth. Versus
having a non-speaker next to us and talking directly to them going.
I know that you can understand on some level, and I will do the best that I can
to change my communication so that I can understand you and you can
understand me. So I won't be able to hear your [00:30:00] physical words, but
maybe I can open up myself on some other level to hear you telepathically. And
then there are activations and skills and exercises to help grow telepathic
abilities.
So some people might seek out classes to help grow telepathic abilities. Some
people might pray about it. Some people may ask for activations while they're
sleeping or downloads to help activate actually being consciously telepath.
Tianna: Wonderful. I'm so curious still about Winifred, , I don't know if she
will or is able to answer this for us, but how did she come into this role of
working with the non, are they like, I'm sure they're not elected, but is there like
, a team and ask for volunteers or how many of these non-physical beings like
her are working with them? Or any background around that she could offer?
Nicole: Okay, great. I've never thought of this question, so I've never heard the
answer, but as you're asking, she's telling me it's really, really exciting for me.
First of [00:31:00] all, I think you asked can other people work with Winifred?
The question before and she's telling me I didn't answer that. Some people can
work with Winifred, but she's only going to answer certain people.
'Cause say a million people asked to work with her and actually, she says it's not
as much about the amount of people, it's about if they're in alignment, like I'm
not going to go to. She's telling me, use this example. Even though it's not true
for me personally, if I'm seeking spiritual advice, I may not go to a Buddhist
monk, but I may go to a rabbi.
So you're going to go to where you, even though I'm personally not Jewish, but
you just tell me, use that example. You go to where you are in alignment.. So,
so some people are in alignment with Winifred, other people aren't, but they're
in alignment with something else. So as far as her, there is a large group of
beings working with different groups on the planet.
So let's talk about nons speakers. There are a large group of spirits working with
nons speakers and for lack of a better word, the allies or non speakers. So she
[00:32:00] volunteered for this. This is the wording she says for this mission.
She volunteered for it. She knew that she was capable of it.'cause she had certain frequencies that are in alignment with the nons speakers
and she has certain
experiences in her existence that make her ready for it. So she's the PhD version
of herself and not only is she the PhD, she's the professor, she said she wouldn't
call herself a master, but she is the PhD and she is the professor.
She's earned her stripes along the way to be able to step into this position and
she is all in. She has spent what feels like eons to get here. Whether it's
technically eons, I don't know. But that's the way I hear the word eons. She has
worked along the way and so she is skilled for this.
Lizzie: Wow. It reminds you of the importance of what's going on on earth for
so many the, you know, think big, right? That the earth is part of [00:33:00]
such a huge, everything that we're all doing and contributing to, and
collaborating on and being called to, and our soul's purpose is part of something
so much bigger that there's a lot of other beings, many, many, many, that are so
invested in seeing what kind of beauty is going to emerge from here, from our
beautiful planet.
Tianna: I love also what you said about alignment. And when I think about in
the years of my spiritual practice , and some different beings that I've worked
with I feel that when I had a sincere, heartfelt request that they show up. ,
Versus just curiosity in our head.
Oh, I wonder, I wonder, I wonder, it's when our heart really wants to, I think
that calls to us, the beings that are aligned with our energy. And so yeah, I
would say that to anyone who's listening that's like, , who am I aligned with? I
would say to just get into your heart and I felt the same thing that Lizzie said.
Nicole, when you called in Winifred, [00:34:00] like that same exact, , you
described it so well, Lizzie, just this feeling in my heart, started feeling very
emotional. And it makes sense that, because we work together, all of us with
three other ladies in our healer group, that we all have a certain resonance.
And so it makes sense that certain beings would have a resonance with each of
us. I was wondering if Winifred or her group, if they had some messages that
they wanted to share to the general public. What messages do they have for
people that are listening?
Nicole: So she's letting me see a visual right now. , It's going to sound
contradictory. She feels like a lone wolf. She's not, but she's showing me herbeing alone, spirit wise. So she has this and this is the wording she's using this
sector. Whatever sector she's working with, she's the lone wolf from her group.
There are other groups who are also sending in spirits, working with nons
speakers on the hill. But her particular [00:35:00] group, she's the one also, she's
totally not alone. She has this mixed, immense group who are her mentors and
her mentees and who are working with her every step of the way. So right now
she's saying she is going to be the spokesperson for her group.
She just became energetically very adamant what she's going to say. To the
people who this speaks to. Please think about why you're here. Please, please
think about why you're here. Each person go. We have our experiences of why
we're here in our, 3D realm. Well, I was born into this family and I was going to
learn this and this, be this resilient and work through these challenges.
And there's that 3D reasons why we're here. But look at the bigger picture. Look
at, the, I was about to say spiritual. And she goes, oh, it's bigger than that., Look
at the, I don't know if this, this wording may not land , for everyone, but what's
the god reason why you're here?
What is that? And so for [00:36:00] some people it might be helping others
bring in light codes to their body. For some people it might be you activating
your DNA to full access. Then helping others do that. What's the bigger picture
here? And so that's one of the things that she's helping with autistic nons
speakers.
Thank you, ma'am. , She's helping with autistic nons speakers of their particular
journeys and the people who are allies with it. So also us humans have our own
particular reasons why we're here, but also the spirits who are connected. So she
has her own personal mission. And then the group itself has the own personal
mission.
And the group Itself's personal mission is helping Earth evolve to light. I don't
actually know what that means. , And those are my human words for it, but
helping earth evolve. o light? I'm going to say to light. Even though that's the
biggest freaking mission, one of the [00:37:00] biggest freaking missions.
And I just said it in five words or, whatever it was. So that is the simplest
wording for it. But that's that group. So this group happens to do it through the
path of non-speaking children. I don't know if that answers the question. Yeah, I
Tianna: felt a rush of energy when you said that.I still feel it. Like this electrical energy. Yeah.
Nicole: Good, good.
Also they want to say so before I was hearing Winifred and I was feeling her
connection with the group. Now I feel the group itself. I also want to say their
mission of helping Earth connect in light. Was that what they just said?
It's so funny. I give us evolve to light set. What did you say,
Lizzie: Lizzie? Evolve. Into more light, I think is what you said.
Nicole: Okay. So feeling them saying, helping earth and humans and animals
and whoever helping the earth evolve into light or more light. Many people's
missions or purposes on Earth fit under that umbrella.
Like they [00:38:00] actually say most fit under that umbrella of basically going
towards the light and it shows every person spoke. Looks a little different.
Okay. Beautiful. Liz, is your hand up because you up or you have a question or
a comment?
Lizzie: No. I was excited about what you were saying and so I was making my
own excited gestures about.
Yeah.
Tianna: Yeah, I wasn't sure as well. I thought her band was up as well, so I was
waiting. Yeah. I was kind
Lizzie: of in what you were saying and got excited, but I guess what I was
feeling while you were talking was Yes, , if we're on our own inner journey,
really then we're looking at all of our own places that want to be seen and
healed and let go.
Then we're all on that. That's part of the bigger mission of evolving everyone,
the collective Gaia towards more light. So even if it's your own single journey
or you're working with a lot of people, or , [00:39:00] you're in ceremony, in
nature, then we're all on that same path essentially.
I guess that's what I was feeling while you were talking.Nicole: One of the things that she's saying is that there are many people. Who,
myself included, this group included probably there are many people who are
going through a personal, really significant challenge in their life. Really, really
significant.
And it's like, oh, how do we evolve and grow and be this amazing bean of light
and connecting with all that one that is when I'm going through my child being
chronically ill or a divorce, or a family member having a car accident or
financial issues or whatever it might be, how do I actually go from being stuck
in the mud or being triggered or being in trauma over and over and over and
then evolve?
And she's saying part of it is being able to disconnect in a loving way from the.
This is my wording, but she's showing me something cycle over and over from
the trauma response [00:40:00] over and over. And there are a lot of different
ways We go to therapy., We get massages, we do different things to help heal
that stuff.
But she says there's another thing of also energetically unplugging from those
things. So Lizzie, a lot of families that you work with or some of the families
are going through a divorce right now. It's really hard when some of these
families are going through divorce and you're also like, how do I support my
child or the rest of my family when we're in such intense transitions?
And she just keeps saying, there's something about this unplugging now when
we unplug, whatever that might be, from , the huge challenge that it is knocking
us off center over and over and over, that doesn't mean. We're not doing the
work that we need to do to heal from it, to grow, to learn, whatever. We are still
doing this, but there's something about, oh, I'm going through this experience
right now.
I'm going to energetically unplug from it and pull my energy back into myself.
[00:41:00] And there are a lot of different ways to doing that on a very simple
way of breathing and imagining your energy is connected with someone and
just pulling it back into your body so that you can still be present for that person
and help them.
But you may not be triggered as much and you may have more energy and
access or availability in your body. And our, she's saying electrical system. I
don't know what I'm talking about when I say electrical system, but in our
electrical system have more availability to, for lack of a better word, grow in
that area.So I don't know if that speaks to anyone, but she's saying that as well.
Lizzie: Yeah, that's helpful. That's a lot of my clients, clearly and many people
that we know are in, like you said, challenging situations and, yeah.
Tianna: Yeah. Yeah. Wonderful. Well, I want to honor our time, but also I just
wanted to check in, Lizzie, did you have, any other questions that you wanted to
ask?
I had one more question. Yeah, go for it.
Lizzie: , While Winifred is here, I want to ask her the [00:42:00] importance of
color remedies 'cause . Remedies that are frequencies. We have so many
imponderables. And so what she feels is the role of imponderables, and this
might be a question that a lot of homeopaths who listen will be interested in
parents, but the role of imponderables in treating and in assisting these kiddos to
be more in balance.
So, and particularly color remedies.
Nicole: Okay, great. And will you, I know what imponderables are, but will you
say what they are?
Lizzie: Yes. In homeopathy we have, , many thousands of remedies. The
majority are made from plants minerals, substances, some are made from
animal substances. And then we have remedies called imponderables that are
made from substances that are non-physical essentially.
So like electricity or moon or soul, sun, they're made from frequencies. And
we've had them for hundreds and hundreds of years and they're always making
new ones. So imponderables have been around for a long time.
Nicole: Okay, great. So [00:43:00] she says from her perspective remedies
having to do with a physical object such as chamomile or light from Saturn,
whatever it might be.
Those are the same to her. As in they're just as effective, just as meaningful, just
as potentially potent and the homeopaths that have clued into the importance of
color. Yes. Y'all have that correct. She says these are foundational remedies for
most people on the planet. She is saying , these are foundational things.So when you are working with a human and they're in a lot of distress about
something and helping with their water and the food that they intake and their
environment, those are foundational things. Then when you work with a human
and you,, bring in the kind of bird song that they hear, that's maybe not a
foundational thing, but it does help the quality of [00:44:00] their life.
So . Light therapy. It doesn't have to be just through homeopathy, but light
therapy it affects for many people the foundation of their beingness. She says,
Tianna: I'm so curious. Because we talk about frequency and , I think that
there's becoming more and more openness and interest in sound healing.
At least that's what I've seen in my circle. And I was wondering too about,, so
sound and light being kind of the key ways we get frequency if color healing
and color therapy. 'cause I know through the Rainbow Bridge work with my
teacher, Chloe Fullon, we've been using, pink light and I know there's different
light therapy.
So anyway, I'm just curious if she can speak more on that.
Nicole: I just got so excited, Tianna, because as you were talking, she just
shared something that I've never thought of before. She said, of course, color
and sound, , sound is right there with color, just as effective. But I always
thought sound , had to be audible.
Like I'm listening to the [00:45:00] frequency of C, or I'm listening to the 538
hertz, or whatever it is. And she said it can be audible, but quote, sound or the
vibrations don't have to be audible. So if you're telepathically, talking with a
non-speaker, you could think of it as in they're sending sound waves to you, but
it's actually not sound, it's frequency to you.
I don't actually know the technicality of telepathy, but she's saying, imagine. A
wave frequency coming to you and on that wave frequency, is the
communication. I was able to say thoughts and she goes, no, it's beyond
thoughts. It's the communication. So it might be thoughts and feelings and
pictures and visuals and all this stuff.
And it's coming on waves. So she's actually going to say, this is one way, this is
the main way. There are other ways we're not going to get into right now. So
she invites us to expand our concept of what sound is going from just [00:46:00]
physically being able to hear it, to be on that. And she says, on the very, very
simple version, most of us know that dogs can hear frequencies we can't hear.So nons speakers , and also people who are telepathic, can hear, quote, hear
frequencies. That at this moment, the average person cannot hear.
Tianna: Yeah, that's really cool. And that makes me think of one of the
powerful dreams that I had many years ago where I was on this. This was, I
don't even know if I was on my spiritual path yet, but I had a dream where I was
on a spaceship and there was someone next to me and I never turned and looked
at them, but I knew them and they were talking to me.
And the spaceship was going through these like amazing, beautiful canyons and
the most beautiful song was playing. And I woke up and I felt so happy, so
inspired, and I wanted to hold onto that song, but I couldn't. And I knew it was
because . That sound or those frequencies don't exist on this planet.
I really wanted to keep the song, but I couldn't hold it [00:47:00] here. But I
wonder if, as we are shifting and awakening and ascending, if we will have
access to those kinds of frequencies while we're here on earth, as we evolve.
Nicole: Yes. , And she says, and obviously to different amounts and different
time periods for different people.
'cause everyone is in their different stages of life. She wants to say two things
about what you just said, Tianna. You said, I don't know if I was on my spiritual
journey that got a laugh out of her. A very loving laugh because we're all on our
spiritual journey. We're all on it. So just to really acknowledge that it's just your
awareness opened at some point to a certain amount she said that.
If you think about that dream, like you so articulately expressed that dream, and
I could feel the softness and the flow of what you were feeling when you were
hearing that sound. And she asked one question of you. What was your
experience of when you heard that sound? And there's a reason why she's
[00:48:00] asking
Tianna: like expansiveness and joy and possibility and safety and love and
yeah, just
Nicole: so if you were thinking about an ongoing challenge that you have in
your life, you can connect back with that feeling of expansiveness, safety, joy,
possibility, all those things.
First, reconnect with that, and then go now through these lenses of
expansiveness and safety. I'm now going to look at this challenge that I have inmy life. I'm now going to look at it or, ask questions of it that maybe I don't
understand or ask for healing about it or shifting of it, whatever it might be.
So you're changing your foundation to look at something through fresh eyes. So
she's just offering that as a possibility.
Lizzie: That's exciting to me because that's what we do as homeopaths or
[00:49:00] how I practice is our medicine, because it's energy medicine, really
assists people in their vital force to access that particular feeling or whatever's
unique to their frequency where they feel that, and what I call have called it for
years in my practice is
what is kind of like your true self or your true frequency and homeopathy.
When it's in union with the person allows them to access that and they feel it
sometimes for the first time. And then the remedy helps them stay in that
frequency more often as a foundation. So I love that she's talking about this as
your foundation, because I think when people come to me and other
homeopaths in our practice, they're in reactivity mode.
Right? Or like, whoa, they're in a different energetic, which could look like
disease and trauma. And so the homeopathy really helps them anchor that
particular thing so that [00:50:00] sensation, that was unique for Tianna that she
experienced and then stay there more solidly and then act from that place.
Right. So, so that's so great. I love that the way she just Winifred and through
Nicole's describing that, 'cause that felt very exciting to me to hear that, , like,
oh yes, that's what homeopathy does, and that's how it helps us and why it's
such an incredible system of medicine. And I do want to say really quickly, we
were talking about sound and color the other night when we all got together as
our group,, I read the new remedies that I had , and people picked and I put
Turquoise 10 m into the sound bowl and played that remedy for everyone.
So we we're experimenting as our group with these color frequencies through
sound and water.
Nicole: So Winifred is saying, people who are listening to the telepathy tapes or
something like it, and it really gets them on fire and passion and activate
something like, whoa, and what do I do next?
. So for some people, they might follow more of Kai Dickens' work [00:51:00]
who created the telepathy tape. For some people, they may connect with a spirit
having to do with autistic nons speakers.For some people, they may look within themselves and going, well, how does
this affect me? How can I be the best version of me? So the encouragement is
that when we feel really inspired with something she says, a gentle reminder.
She knows it's obvious, but a gentle reminder. Can you take it further?
Why is it speaking to you so deeply? What need do you have with it? What
desire do you have with it? Do you want to connect with other people who are
also energized by listening to the telepathy tapes or something else out there
that got you really, really excited? The encouragement is, take it a step further.
Sometimes we hear something, we're really excited, and then we get so caught
up in our lives that we forget about it and she says please take it a step further
for your own personal self. It doesn't even have to be for the [00:52:00] world,
just your own personal self, because this is already just, this is juicy.
This is nectar of life. This is a connection with ourselves, with the people
around us, with the globe, with the spirit realm, whatever connection it is for
you of going, oh, and this is it. We're magic. This is magical. This is our
playground. For some people, they think of the earth as a classroom, I can
resonate with it.
For me, it's a playground because I'm playful. So this is part of the playground.
Take it a step further, whatever that step is, and there are. Beings her. There are
groups of beings, there are individual spirits, there are humans. There's so many
people around you who can cheerleader you on and who are cheering you on
from afar or right next to you.
That if we expand our awareness and go, okay, I would like some [00:53:00]
encouragement. I would like some good job today. You had a really rough day.
Good job on , making it through the day. And I'm going to listen to some
telepathy tapes, or I'm going to listen to some other podcast or read a book or
take a bath and say a prayer to something or someone take it a step further is the
encouragement.
And she says, you're doing great.
Tianna: Aw, amazing. Thank you. Oh, that's perfect. Thank you Fred. Close
things up. Thank you so much, Nicole. Thank you so much, Winifred and the
whole. Team of beings that work as well, with her behind her, however you
want to say that.
Nicole: Thank you, Winifred. Thank you. And she says Thank you, Tianna.Have you figured out yet why you connected with her?
Tianna: Oh, I thought you told me when we met as a group. It's because I'm
part of her group, or lineage, I think is the word you used. Lineage.
Nicole: Yes, she is. Now as you know, when I do readings, I don't remember
them often.
I thought there was [00:54:00] some other reason, just 'cause she's talking about
it right now.
Tianna: Oh, then I have no idea.
Nicole: , It was for you to introduce the concepts that she's bringing to a greater
audience, as in through the podcast.
Lizzie: That's what I thought.
Nicole: That's what I thought.
Tianna: Okay. Okay. That she told me,
oh, did she?
Nicole: Yeah. Maybe you came to it on your own. I just don't remember that.
But she's like, it's happening. See, it's happened, Tianna. Yeah. You took it a
step further.
Tianna: That's the thing. That's where I felt like we had to do this episode
because when I had Lizzie and Sarah on, I wasn't planning to mention Winifred,
and then I mentioned her and then I was like, oh, well now I need to tell that
story.
And I felt like, I hadn't done whatever I maybe had agreed to do with Winifred
yeah. It felt like something was still open that I needed to bring it out to more
people. And so here we are. And so are
Nicole: you did it, you took it actually multiple steps further. You introduced
me to Winifred.. I don't know if I would've met her without [00:55:00] you. I'm not sure. I
literally don't know, but I met her through you. You've good job done.
Lizzie: Yeah. And, and introducing her to parents of Nons speakers,, so I think
everything that we talked about here is going to be really helpful for. The
parents that I work with, yeah. And I felt that too. Right Before we did this, I
had this strong feeling that you were supposed to do more about this, more
podcasts about this. So
Tianna: wonderful. Yeah. It's been so interesting. And thank you. I love
Winifred, her energy. Thank you so much Nicole, for helping us connect and
Lizzie for really utilizing all of this to help so many people, so many kids and
their families.
I really appreciate that. Yeah. Nicole, I'm sure people are going to listen to this
and they're going to really be like, wow. I want Nicole, , to have her talk to my
Spirit guides. Can you tell everyone how , they can connect to you? I.
Nicole: Absolutely. So my website is nicole arish.com.
So it's just my name. [00:56:00] And then also, I hold a lot of different events
and so if people ask to be part of my Facebook group, I always post my events
there. And I also send out somewhat regular emails with all of my events, but I
give one-on-one sessions, couple sessions. And what's becoming really popular
right now is a group of people will ask me to give a group reading to them.
It might be four people, it might be seven, and it's a group of friends and
whether they want individual readings in it or they want to hear about what's
going on in the world or talking about Winifred. So we did that with our group.
, Or talking about yeah, the evolution of the world or politics or whatever.
So people reach out for different things.
Tianna: Wonderful. That's so cool. And Lizzie, I'm sure people are going to
listen and be like, wow, homeopathy sounds amazing. Or I have a loved one
who's an autistic non-speaker, and I would love to have Lizzie help them out.
Can you share how people can contact you?
Lizzie: Yes. I have, my own website, which is lizzie [00:57:00] martinez.com
and that's my practice and a couple of practitioners that I work with. And then I
work collaboratively worldwide with Homeopathy Hive, , and we see complexpediatrics worldwide and we collaborate and mentor. And I also teach for the
School of Intuitive homeopathy and teach with them.
Yeah, so lots of collaborations.
Tianna: Wonderful. And of course my website is awakening
transformation.com for anyone who's interested in my services. It's been such a
pleasure. Thank you guys so much.
Nicole: Thank you.
Tianna: Thank you too. Thank you.